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		<title>By: sara</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you with this information i can complet my work</description>
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		<title>By: DaleG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaleG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback.  

(Sorry about the duplicate post on part 2, my internet was flakey, and I didn&#039;t think the first one went through.)

Sounds good, I&#039;ll let them self adjust for a couple of days, then adjust the nut for best range on the pedal.  

And if things don&#039;t hold properly, or jam up, I&#039;ll put on the new cables.  You pretty must have to take everything off to redo the cable, eh (since the parking lever is behind the whole works)?  

(Oh well, first wheel took me a few hours, second wheel only 20 minutes or so, so if it comes do that, it&#039;ll be quicker without the learning curve and the vehicle-less hunt for new adjusters, etc.. :) )

Thanks again.  I think the best things about Wranglers is the wonderful community around them.  Now that my son has one, I&#039;m aching to get one myself by summer.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback.  </p>
<p>(Sorry about the duplicate post on part 2, my internet was flakey, and I didn&#8217;t think the first one went through.)</p>
<p>Sounds good, I&#8217;ll let them self adjust for a couple of days, then adjust the nut for best range on the pedal.  </p>
<p>And if things don&#8217;t hold properly, or jam up, I&#8217;ll put on the new cables.  You pretty must have to take everything off to redo the cable, eh (since the parking lever is behind the whole works)?  </p>
<p>(Oh well, first wheel took me a few hours, second wheel only 20 minutes or so, so if it comes do that, it&#8217;ll be quicker without the learning curve and the vehicle-less hunt for new adjusters, etc.. <img src='http://www.adventuresindiy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>Thanks again.  I think the best things about Wranglers is the wonderful community around them.  Now that my son has one, I&#8217;m aching to get one myself by summer.  <img src='http://www.adventuresindiy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DiyGuy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you found this post helpful.  

I waited a couple of days (like you) and adjusted the parking brake cable using the nut where the 2 cables connect to the one.

If I remember correctly, you&#039;ll need to set the parking brake to where you want it to catch and then adjust the cable till the brakes engage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you found this post helpful.  </p>
<p>I waited a couple of days (like you) and adjusted the parking brake cable using the nut where the 2 cables connect to the one.</p>
<p>If I remember correctly, you&#8217;ll need to set the parking brake to where you want it to catch and then adjust the cable till the brakes engage.</p>
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		<title>By: DaleG</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just finished doing this same job.  Thanks for the photos and guide, it was very helpful.  

(Especially since I had no adjusters at all in this &#039;95 my son just bought.)

One thing which isn&#039;t immediately obvious from the photos or description, is how the parking brake lever attaches to the brake shoe.  (If you pay attention taking it apart, you can see, but if you don&#039;t, . . .)

Both Chilton and AllData don&#039;t give much of a description of it, either.

The top of the barking brake actuator has a little hook that slips into a part of the shoe, going *behind* the shoe.  The parking brake strut (side with the spring) then goes around the front shoe (with the slight arch on the top), and the other end of the strut goes around the back shoe and parking brake lever together.

Also, I put the adjuster cable on the opposite order, hooked the loop on the top, then rotating the adjusting lever up, it is easy to hook the spring on the appropriate part on the level (there&#039;s even a slot for it to slide in, easy to do when the lever&#039;s rotated up).

Other than figuring out the parking brake lever placement, this guide was the most helpful and complete I&#039;ve found.  Thanks so much.  :)

Also, how does one tell if you need rear parking brake cables?  Prior to this job, the parking brake didn&#039;t hold much at all.

The shoes (and hold down kit) were seriously messed on both sides, and there was *no* self adjuster on either side.  So yeah; not much of a chance for the parking brake to work.

But after doing this work, I only have slightly more grip on the parking brake.  The parking brake pedal shows no resistance until about half way, then it does seem to resist and tighten up the brakes slightly, but bottoms out.

Is this just a matter of tightening up the front parking brake cable nut, or is this a sign that the rear cables are toast?  

(They look newish, and seem to slide from my quick examination; hard to tell too much with that big spring at the end fighting you, though.  I&#039;m working solo so I had no-one to try the pedal while I watched the cable motion.)

Also, I figured I&#039;d wait until they self-adjusted over the next few days, before messing with the parking brake.  

(Hopefully I won&#039;t have to go in again; to do the cables, I believe I have to take all the shoes and gear off each side again to replace those.  D&#039;oh.  Although the second side took *way* less time than the first, after my re-education in the way of drum brakes.)

Thanks for any tips.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just finished doing this same job.  Thanks for the photos and guide, it was very helpful.  </p>
<p>(Especially since I had no adjusters at all in this &#8217;95 my son just bought.)</p>
<p>One thing which isn&#8217;t immediately obvious from the photos or description, is how the parking brake lever attaches to the brake shoe.  (If you pay attention taking it apart, you can see, but if you don&#8217;t, . . .)</p>
<p>Both Chilton and AllData don&#8217;t give much of a description of it, either.</p>
<p>The top of the barking brake actuator has a little hook that slips into a part of the shoe, going *behind* the shoe.  The parking brake strut (side with the spring) then goes around the front shoe (with the slight arch on the top), and the other end of the strut goes around the back shoe and parking brake lever together.</p>
<p>Also, I put the adjuster cable on the opposite order, hooked the loop on the top, then rotating the adjusting lever up, it is easy to hook the spring on the appropriate part on the level (there&#8217;s even a slot for it to slide in, easy to do when the lever&#8217;s rotated up).</p>
<p>Other than figuring out the parking brake lever placement, this guide was the most helpful and complete I&#8217;ve found.  Thanks so much.  <img src='http://www.adventuresindiy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also, how does one tell if you need rear parking brake cables?  Prior to this job, the parking brake didn&#8217;t hold much at all.</p>
<p>The shoes (and hold down kit) were seriously messed on both sides, and there was *no* self adjuster on either side.  So yeah; not much of a chance for the parking brake to work.</p>
<p>But after doing this work, I only have slightly more grip on the parking brake.  The parking brake pedal shows no resistance until about half way, then it does seem to resist and tighten up the brakes slightly, but bottoms out.</p>
<p>Is this just a matter of tightening up the front parking brake cable nut, or is this a sign that the rear cables are toast?  </p>
<p>(They look newish, and seem to slide from my quick examination; hard to tell too much with that big spring at the end fighting you, though.  I&#8217;m working solo so I had no-one to try the pedal while I watched the cable motion.)</p>
<p>Also, I figured I&#8217;d wait until they self-adjusted over the next few days, before messing with the parking brake.  </p>
<p>(Hopefully I won&#8217;t have to go in again; to do the cables, I believe I have to take all the shoes and gear off each side again to replace those.  D&#8217;oh.  Although the second side took *way* less time than the first, after my re-education in the way of drum brakes.)</p>
<p>Thanks for any tips.  <img src='http://www.adventuresindiy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DiyGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>DiyGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 01:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for adding more detail for people to reference.  I bough new ones because the old ones were close to 10 years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for adding more detail for people to reference.  I bough new ones because the old ones were close to 10 years old.</p>
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		<title>By: Just a Jeep Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just a Jeep Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there&#039;s any significant damage to the inside of the drum it should be machined out. After all the damage is removed, check the internal diameter of the drum where the shoes will be making contact. The lip of the drums are usually stamped with the maximum diameter that the drum can be safely machined to. If the stamping is unreadable, check an auto-parts website as they may have the number you&#039;re looking for. When in doubt just buy new drums. I bought drums, shoes, and spring kits for both sides and a wheel cylinder for the passenger side for under $150. With brakes it&#039;s worth the extra time/money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s any significant damage to the inside of the drum it should be machined out. After all the damage is removed, check the internal diameter of the drum where the shoes will be making contact. The lip of the drums are usually stamped with the maximum diameter that the drum can be safely machined to. If the stamping is unreadable, check an auto-parts website as they may have the number you&#8217;re looking for. When in doubt just buy new drums. I bought drums, shoes, and spring kits for both sides and a wheel cylinder for the passenger side for under $150. With brakes it&#8217;s worth the extra time/money.</p>
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		<title>By: DiyGuy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I really don&#039;t have a good answer for that.  I checked my guides and the interwebs and the only thing I&#039;ve been able to find is about disc brake pad thickness.  I think it was eHow.com that mentioned disc brakes should be replaced when the braking material gets to be 1/4&quot; thick.  Sorry I couldn&#039;t be more help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I really don&#8217;t have a good answer for that.  I checked my guides and the interwebs and the only thing I&#8217;ve been able to find is about disc brake pad thickness.  I think it was eHow.com that mentioned disc brakes should be replaced when the braking material gets to be 1/4&#8243; thick.  Sorry I couldn&#8217;t be more help.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoofactory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoofactory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Article for DIY Jeep Wrangler rear brakes!  I&#039;m rebuilding a 1994 YJ and my internal parts look just fine - just a good cleaning.  How to know when to replace the drums?  I&#039;m thinking of blasting what I have and ceramic coating the brake drums for longevity.  Thanks.  Zoofactory@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article for DIY Jeep Wrangler rear brakes!  I&#8217;m rebuilding a 1994 YJ and my internal parts look just fine &#8211; just a good cleaning.  How to know when to replace the drums?  I&#8217;m thinking of blasting what I have and ceramic coating the brake drums for longevity.  Thanks.  <a href="mailto:Zoofactory@yahoo.com">Zoofactory@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is the second part of the drum brake replacement. There is another post for the removal of the drum brakes. For the installation parts I didn&#8217;t want to mess around with getting individual springs and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is the second part of the drum brake replacement. There is another post for the removal of the drum brakes. For the installation parts I didn&#8217;t want to mess around with getting individual springs and [...]</p>
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